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~zampano

I try to make myself and my immediate surroundings as self-sufficient as possible. There’s something innate in me that makes me want to do everything myself, to not depend on anyone, and even more so to be **free**. Of course, “free” can hide a lot. Despite how ingrained this part of my nature is, though, I can see where it’s been reinforced. As always, it begins with a “there but for the grace of God go I” situation.

This doesn’t mean I’m some kind of prepper, but there’s a similar pitfall at play.

At some point when I was much younger (roughly between 11 and 14, if memory serves), I read David Brin’s *The Postman*. I’d learned of the book due to the eminently forgettable movie that was loosely based on it. But the movie coming out in the 1990s meant that it made no real effort to actually understand the book, and threw out all the interesting themes and ideas in order to make something about as generic as possible. I will not be referencing the movie further.

The book takes place in the post-apocalyptic Pacific Northwest of the United States. The main antagonists are a group calling themselves Holnists (after Nathan Holm, their founder), a fascistic, individualist culture. (That the book was published in 1985 shows how little some things change.) But the idea that has really stuck with me is a point of history in the book’s world. The collapse of society wasn’t brought about by war (mainly EMPs and bioweapons), but rather these isolated survivalists that kept attacking relief convoys and generally preventing society from rebuilding itself. (Looking back, I have to wonder of Hideo Kojima was influenced by this story in making *Death Stranding*.)

I think about this idea a lot. Prepper culture, to my limited outsiders’ point of view, largely ignores the need to rebuild a *society* for any individual to survive. Having 10 years’ worth of food in your basement won’t do much good if you’re attacked by a well-organized group, no matter how many guns you’ve stockpiled along with it.

We see echoes of this in the present as well. How often are we told about how “it’s not what you know, but *who* you know”? Networking is such an all-pervasive practice that it’s almost cliché at this point. As an extremely introverted person, however, that advice always feels like a bit of a slap.

The more I’ve thought about it, the more it’s also very telling. The idea that we should be building relationships solely out of what those people can do for our careers is an extremely cynical take on social structures. I’ve always found myself uncomfortable with such a mercenary approach. I’m not sure how you keep it honest, which is to say how you avoid what amounts to being nice to someone solely out of the hope that they’ll do something good for you in the future. Even if both parties are going into it with their eyes open, there’s still something about it that cheapens the idea of community and our relationships with each other. I don’t think it’s possible to entirely prevent having this kind of relationship in your life from bleeding over into others.

The result for me has been an unwillingness to do traditional networking things. I interact with co-workers whom I like interacting with, and maintain the relationships I want to maintain. I have nothing to do with LinkedIn.

Lately, though, I’ve been wondering if I’m not going too far. Not in feeling networking to be distasteful, but in trying to go it alone. I’m not sure yet where the proper line is. On the one hand, I’m all about finding teachers, and tend to learn a lot better in that context anyway. And it’s not like I would never call someone I have a genuine relationship with for help. My default, though, is absolutely to try to do things entirely on my own. With this in mind, it’s a small wonder that I so often feel disconnected, and like so much of what I do is done, well, in isolation.

The other side of my highly independent nature is that I don’t trust myself to be able to build any kind of community. I love the idea, to be clear: I’d really enjoy having a group coalesce around something I do or have done, whether that’s this blog, some creative project, some app I code, whatever. This too is telling, in that it’s an example of how I want connectedness but with a minimum of risk or vulnerability. I have a very difficult time becoming an integrated part of the social groups I’m part of, and often feel forgettable or disposable. After years of this, I don’t really seek out groups, and have very high rejection sensitivity (even where no rejection is intended). It’s this self-fulfilling cycle of not putting in the work to really be a part of the group, then feeling rejected when I’m not part of the group, followed by pulling back.

Even though I intellectually understand it, I have a very hard time with the **work** aspect of relationship-building. (I’m sure Mrs. Zampanò would agree.) I have to imagine that some of it is “forgetting” to do it (the non-squeaky wheel doesn’t get any grease), while some is my issue with the perceived cynicism. I also don’t want to come across as desperate for inclusion, since that’s understandably a turn-off for most.

So despite my actions to the contrary, this box isn’t entirely isolated, and there are bridges to it if you care to cross them. Maybe the first step is to start working on some signage.


baegho

In reference to preppers, I sometimes visit online prepper communities out of pure curiosity (I try not to participate since some of the conversations can be extremist in nature) and something not frequently brought up is the idea of creating community and trust among neighbors. I think many, who fear some sort of apocalyptic future or societal collapse, believe that that world (therefore everyone else but themselves) would be untrustworthy and there may be some truth to that; however, everytime, most apocalyptic scenarios humans have already faced have been overcome with some level of teamwork whenever they're religious groups, protests, local armies, or simply restless citizens looking for bread to eat. You'd have to wonder if it's popular media driving this narrative (the lone mercenary) or if it's more core to human nature.

In regard to fitting in, I find myself to be a similar boat to be honest (I guess that's why we're all here on this relatively obscure website). Which is weird because I used to thrive in social groups but time, trauma, and whatever else has worsened my trust slowly in others and this world that we're in, turning me into the textbook definition of hyper-independent. But you're right, it's definitely a self-fulfilling prophecy and it's up to us to turn things around - of course, for some people, drawing people to them is as natural as breathing. And for others, it's like trying to breathe up for water.

Reconnecting with those you like, finding new (or revisiting old) hobbies, and seeing new places have honestly helped me out a lot mentally. I hope that you can find your way out of this rut we're both in and strike that balance. Cheers to potential new relationships!

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zampano

Thanks very much! My main struggle in this regard is still sticking with something long enough to make connections with other people regarding it. For example, I enjoy teaching, but even with those things that I know enough about to teach, doing so regularly starts to get dull very easily. It's tough.

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commence2897

i can empathize with all of this, though i've resigned to distancing myself farther from communities because it's easier than trying to navigate all the complicated situations i find myself in when interacting with other folks. this obviously doesn't work, else i wouldn't periodically interact with folks here and in other spaces - be it physical or digital - but i think i'm learning how to care less about being lonely and ween myself off of wanting human connection.

not suggesting this is the route you should be taking, mind you.

i've recently started to understand my spirituality, which has helped with figuring out how to connect with things other than myself. being immersed in nature, being able to attune with the plants and trees around me is so much simpler than talking to humans. i'm struggling to put all of this into words because there are just so many words, thoughts and feelings that i've been taught to consider when interacting with someone sentient that isn't me - even now i'm worried that i'm focusing too heavily on myself and disregarding what you've said; hijacking the conversation. all of these worries just disappear when i'm in nature because i just think less. there's less things to think about because i don't /need/ to go back to my house and talk to other people - i can stay out because i have the skills to keep myself alive. just being able to admire the stars and the way the trees look different at night is enough to fill that void of lack of human connection.

i don't know, really - but it works for me.

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zampano

I appreciate the thoughts. In particular, the bit about embracing a broader sense of connection (especially as part of a spiritual practice) is excellent. Of course, I'm still searching for what my version of this practice looks like. My brain gets bored very easily, meaning that more meditative practices are often not a good fit. But that too can mean a lot of different things.

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commence2897

it took me something like a decade to introspect enough to connect all the dots about what i feel about the things i keep returning to in life; something changed one day and suddenly i found myself having revelations every other week about things i already knew but had never acknowledged.

i hope you figure out whatever you need to figure out to be content, and i'm almost certain that it'll look vastly different to the practices other folks trust.

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zampano

I wonder how much of it (for either/both of us) is that we as humans are inherently cyclical? For example, to your earlier example of spirituality, this is something that I focus on super hard for awhile, then stop for awhile, then come back to. I think I'm right on the cusp of returning to it right now; 2023 was a pretty intellect-focused year, while I'm guessing 2024 will be a spiritual one.

But this also means figuring ourselves out, what we want, and what we want to prioritize involves hitting a moving target. There needs to be space for variation within ourselves, which is something we fight by trying to formulate a specific identity. Even with things like morality, it's so context- and situational-dependent that it's hard to say "I believe x" in that setting.

Anyway, I again appreciate the good vibes. I often think that contentment is less about figuring out something new and more learning how to be comfortable in my own skin, but that solution hasn't yet occurred. It's scary to think that I've somehow missed this particular boat, even if I don't actively believe that to be true (but I have to acknowledge the possibility). It's never too late, but I do recognize too that I'm not as young as I used to be, and don't want to only have things sorted out 2 years before I kick the bucket, y'know?

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commence2897

i agree with you (at least now, in this cycle! ;))

i don't know what contentment is, but i know that what makes you content is likely to look different to what satisfies me. i have to remind myself of the inevitability of change whenever something dissatisfying arises even though change is something i encounter so frequently that you'd think i'd be used to it by now. a good example is whenever i'm in pain. it subsides eventually.

i think i forget because my priorities change. the themes stay the same, but the details vary. situation plays a role, but i think entropy is a more involved factor. still, i know my age - amongst other things - has impacted the vigor i have when approaching what's important to me.

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zampano

I think you've put things well, especially in terms of priorities vs. themes.

I'm still not really any more sure of things than when I wrote the original post, but new meds have at least helped me deal with it in the meantime :)

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