Midnight Pub

Is it just me or are most sites just pure cesspools nowadays?

~memer

First time in a while where I'm not writing a post while drunk! Hip hip hooray! Incredible achievement, I know,

but with my little dumb joke aside... I can't be the only one who has noticed the steady decline of any and all big social media platforms, right?? (or at least most of them).

Twitter, reddit, tiktok, instagram, discord*, in essence any "big" platform which doesn't pander itself to a specific niche (i.e. tumblr, it has its flaws, but in comparison to the sites I mentioned it doesn't really hold a candle lol) is bound to - in one way or another - end up becoming nothing but a negative feedback loop

(*discord is up for debate since you control which servers you're in)

Obviously with the way the internet is, it's always been this way but never to this extent, I feel like the past couples of years have been a downwards spiral full of hate and misery, you could post the most stupid, innocent thing ever and there will not only be a myriad of ragebaiters and trolls, but also people who genuinely (for one reason or another) will find a way with whatever you post

~bartender? Just gimmie the strongest thing you have available, may I wake up in a reality where people don't harass eachother


tracker

It seems that you've struck a nerve with a number of our patrons here and understandably so.

The centralized platforms that you listed all share a common business model. To power their websites, apps, and APIs, these companies have to purchase enormous amounts of computing and storage from datacenters. They also have to then pay huge, ongoing electricity and internet bills to continue delivering content to us. In addition, they have to employ armies of IT staff, programmers, UX/UI designers, product managers, support staff, business administration professionals, accountants, marketers, and so on. Needless to say, this is very expensive. And now they've just created a system that can deliver their particular type of media to end users...which makes them all just modern-day interactive television/chat networks.

Where then does all of their content come from? Well, as we all know, it's produced by users of their platforms - usually with financial incentives if you can produce more and higher quality content that attracts more viewers/subscribers. Paying content creators is then yet another cost for these businesses. Since they aren't just doing this for the lolz and the love of humanity, they are obviously out to make a profit...but almost no one who uses these platforms pays for access to them.

How then do they make their money? Targeted advertisements. That's the whole game in a nutshell. Social media platforms curate media feeds for each of us that keep us engaged and wanting more of the same or similar content. And while we keep doomscrolling like the addicts they've made us into, the companies keep slipping targeted advertisements in front of us over and over and over again, until eventually we start purchasing the products that have been advertised to us. And if the targeted ads aren't quite enough to get us to buy something, the ad sponsors are paying all the successful content creators to advertise their merchandise to their loyal audiences in order to add that human touch that pulls on our heartstrings and compels us to make the purchase that we were hesitating on.

In the end, the business models of these centralized, corporate platforms demands that they keep us addicted to their content, so they can show us as many ads per day as possible. The only way out of the matrix here is to walk away from these platforms and either avoid social media altogether or to go and find it on decentralized, non-commercial protocols that are being self-hosted by individuals or small communities who don't need to make a buck off of it.

One of the strengths of Geminispace is that its content is so intentionally visually boring that it prevents commercial advertising from flourishing. You just can't differentiate your product with fancy graphics, colored text, unique fonts, built-in jingles, videos, or anything else on a Gemini site, so businesses don't want anything to do with it. Instead, it remains a hold-out space where genuine human connection and exchange can happen in long form writing, consumed slowly and not sensationally. Here we can share our thoughts and ideas without worrying about being downvoted by a million bots or trolls because the level of effort to actually write a text response on these sites is much higher than clicking a like or dislike icon, providing just enough friction to filter out the low engagement crowd.

It's certainly not everything to everyone, but I've been around in this space for the past 5 years, and I'm very happy that it's still puttering along at a slow pace out here, largely undisturbed by the boom and bust cycle of modern markets. I hope your journey through Geminispace leaves you happier than you were before you found it. Happy travels!

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kirk781

Reddit's new UI is an exercise in uselessness. So much wasted space and non-navigable via keyboard. I will add Youtube as well. Not as much as the UI as much as Google has enshittified the whole experience. Doesn't matter if one even pays for YT Premium, they are inundated with stuff like 'Please join our channel for exclusive perks' or 'Super Thanks' and what not. Almost makes one long for piracy.

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paul

I’m coming out of the woodwork here to comment.

Yes, I agree with you. Wholeheartedly.

A true sense of community is hard to find on these social platforms these days. As is common courtesy. (I suppose I should joke about “common courtesy” not being so “common” anymore, but honestly, the reality pains me too much to make fun of it.)

Take Reddit for example (yeah, yeah, I know…) - I recently responded to a post about the high prices of a particular internet / cellular service provider, explaining that for my use case, they were quite reasonable. Good service, decent customer support, features that I find useful that are unique to that provider in market, etc.

Well, imagine my surprise when I was downvoted to hell. Not only that, but the attacks: “eff off, you corporate shill”, “do better marketing person”, “you’re an effing idiot if you truly think that” and so on.

Suffice to say, I’m not participating in that “community” any longer. Yet another line drawn through a name on my list of regular haunts.

I’ve recently been exploring Gemini space (hence my emergence here today with a comment) and as much as it saddens me to see pages that haven’t seen updates in literally years, it also heartens me to see that communities like the pub here are still surviving, albeit at such a low volume I would hesitate to say “thriving”.

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ropocl

It's whack. The incentives are broken. Glad you found your way here and took the time to share your thoughts!

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herson

This is why I'm trying to remove myself from social media, I don't see it helpful anymore, and with the amount of AI slop that poisons most people's feeds, they had lost their magic.

I prefer to spend time playing with my DS now, I've been playing a lot of Picross and SMT, haha.

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louq

Well, when the algorithms try to keep you into your bubble, and likes and hearts is how you gain reputation, you see why this is an issue. We are just living in a world of numbers. In the end we, are slaves to the numbers.

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ew

Hello ~louq,

I would like to disagree a little:

In the end we, are slaves to the numbers.

Well, I would like to point out, that this is not a law of nature. We ourselves chose to open an account at $some_network_maybe_social.

Or as another example: "How come our children are spending their entire time on the smart phone?" "Because we gave them the smart phone in the first place."

Have a nice day!

~ew

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louq

Well yeah, you are right.

It could be that dozens of kids who dont know about internet safety, just go in and be like adults. Even though, social media is only for adults.

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