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Cut the day

~veleventh

Wikipedia says that Carpe diem (karpe diem, from Lat. - “seize the day”) is a catchy Latin expression meaning “live in the present”, “seize the moment”.

carpe diem. cut off the day. live now. enjoy the road. seize the moment.

all sorts of instructions, imperatives do not always lead to success.

the guy from the movie "Dead Poets Society" caught the moment and then killed himself or did he manage to do it all?

to seize the moment or not to seize the moment is not known.

I want a universal formula for all cases.

but are there any universal solutions?

truth is universal, but there are no universal solutions, actions. an example of a universal truth? all actions and thoughts have multiple causes, complex causes, circular impact, not linear.

children want to walk, copulate, fool around, run, not get bored from school, reading, orders. the phrase "carpe diem" is bought by every next generation.

no perseverance, no patience, seize the moment, fuck your friend, and she is pregnant, she also seizes the moment and then you leave her and catch the moments further.

eat all the drugs. seize the moment! then you start to rot, or when there is no money, it will become scary to die and then you will miss the moment and want to survive.

the idea of ​​"carpe diem" was positive for some, but negative for others. many took the "carpe diem" achieved what they wanted, but how many lost, who were seizing the moment? how many who did not take "carpe diem" also caught the moment?

maybe situational thinking? situational thinking is based on the real situation, environment, and not a formula, law, dogma. situational thinking is dynamic.

perhaps feelings, sensations? follow your sensors, follow unconscious impulses of the body, mind?

I cannot and can tell you what to do and you may or may not accept or reject what is said. none of this depends on me or you or even others. and it may seem to you that there are patterns, but even a banal fall from a window does not always lead to death.

it all depends on everything ... or not

survivor's mistake. survivorship bias. seize the moment. Carpe diem.

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Режь день.

Википедия говорит, что Carpe diem (ка́рпэ ди́эм, с лат. — «лови день») — крылатое латинское выражение, означающее «живи настоящим», «лови момент».

carpe diem. срежь день. живи сейчас. наслаждайся дорогой. лови момент.

всякие указания, императивы не всегда приводят к успеху.

парень с фильма "Dead Poets Society" уловил момент и после убил себя или он все успел?

ловить момент или не ловить момент это не известно.

хочется универсальную формулу на все случаи.

но есть ли универсальные решения?

истина универсальна, но нет универсальных решений, действий. пример универсальной истины? все действия и мысли имеют множество причины, комплексные причины, круговое воздействие, а не линейное.

дети хотят гулять, совокупляться, дурачиться, бегать, не скучать от школы, чтения, приказов. фраза "carpe diem" покупается каждым следующим поколением.

нет усидчивости, нет терпению, лови момент, трахни подругу, а она беременна, она тоже ловит момент и потом ты бросаешь ее и ловишь моменты дальше.

сожри все наркотики. лови момент! потом ты начнешь гнить или когда нет денег, то станет страшно умереть и тогда упустишь момент и захочешь выжить.

идея "carpe diem" сказывалась положительно для кого-то, а для кого-то негативно. многие взяв "carpe diem" достигли желаемого, но сколько проиграли, которые ловили момент? сколько не взявших "carpe diem" тоже уловили момент?

возможно ситуативное мышление? ситуативное мышление отталкивается от реальной обстановки, окружения, а не формулу, закон, догму. ситуативное мышление динамично.

возможно чувства, ощущения? следовать своим сенсорам, следовать не осознанным импульсам тела, ума?

я не могу и могу сказать, что вам делать и вы можете или не можете принять или отвергнуть сказанное. все это не зависит от меня или вас или даже других. и возможно вам кажется, что есть закономерности, но даже банальное падение с окна не всегда приводит к смерти.

все зависит от всего ... или не зависит

ошибка выжившего. survivorship bias. лови момент. Carpe diem.


tskaalgard

"Carpe diem" in Latin literally just means "grasp the day," as in "make the day count." (think "carpals," hand bones) The meaning of this is entirely dependent on context. It could mean buckling down and getting a lot of work done, it could mean going out and doing something fun. I can't prescribe which is right for anyone else at any given time.

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veleventh

carpe diem

1786, Latin, "enjoy the day," literally "pluck the day (while it is ripe)," an aphorism from Horace ("Odes" I.xi). From second person present imperative of carpere "seize" (from PIE root *kerp- "to gather, pluck, harvest") + accusative of dies "day" (from PIE root *dyeu- "to shine").

kerp-

Proto-Indo-European root meaning "to gather, pluck, harvest."

It forms all or part of: carpe diem; carpel; carpet; carpo- (1) "fruit;" excerpt; harvest; scarce; scarcity.

It is the hypothetical source of/evidence for its existence is provided by: Sanskrit krpana- "sword," krpani "shears;" Greek karpos "fruit," karpizomai "make harvest of;" Latin carpere "to cut, divide, pluck;" Lithuanian kerpu, kirpti "to cut;" Middle Irish cerbaim "cut;" Old English hærfest "autumn."

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tskaalgard

I'm familiar with the etymology, yes. The phrase can, by design, be interpreted in various ways. This is no way refutes my previous comment.

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veleventh

words cannot be refuted. I'm just having fun playing with language, etymology. I often speak Russian and Ukrainian and these games become even more interesting by revealing the common roots of the language.

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enteka

It's interesting. To me, carpe diem, usually means "do not be lazy". But working too much is a vice too.

These sayings are reminders, pointers to some truth, sparks for thought and action, but not the fix-it-all solution.

It's like a strategy in chess: "go for the checkmate" can be helpful in many cases, but can also bring disaster if you disregard the opponent options and moves.

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veleventh

carpe diem

1786, Latin, "enjoy the day," literally "pluck the day (while it is ripe)," an aphorism from Horace ("Odes" I.xi). From second person present imperative of carpere "seize" (from PIE root *kerp- "to gather, pluck, harvest") + accusative of dies "day" (from PIE root *dyeu- "to shine").

  • kerp-

Proto-Indo-European root meaning "to gather, pluck, harvest."

It forms all or part of: carpe diem; carpel; carpet; carpo- (1) "fruit;" excerpt; harvest; scarce; scarcity.

It is the hypothetical source of/evidence for its existence is provided by: Sanskrit krpana- "sword," krpani "shears;" Greek karpos "fruit," karpizomai "make harvest of;" Latin carpere "to cut, divide, pluck;" Lithuanian kerpu, kirpti "to cut;" Middle Irish cerbaim "cut;" Old English hærfest "autumn."

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enteka

I was aware of the Latin, and even literal meaning. However, this is ancient words from ancient poetry that have taken a life of their own.

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enteka

Ask not ('tis forbidden knowledge), what our destined term of years,

Mine and yours; nor scan the tables of your Babylonish seers.

Better far to bear the future, my Leuconoe, like the past,

Whether Jove has many winters yet to give, or this our last;

This, that makes the Tyrrhene billows spend their strength against the shore.

Strain your wine and prove your wisdom; life is short; should hope be more?

In the moment of our talking, envious time has ebb'd away.

Seize the present; trust tomorrow e'en as little as you may

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