Midnight Pub

Toxic individuality

~inquiry

Is there anything good about individuality?

Isn't it just a fancy word for mental illness?

Don't all the other species function just fine without self concepts, yea without concepts at all?

Isn't what some teachings call "sin" simply putting the idea of a free-willed self above biological reality (call the latter "God" if you wish)?

I'm suddenly remembering the opening of John Lennon's song "God":

"God is a concept by which we measure our pain."

Not just any old pain, but _our_ pain, i.e. that of a notional being?

Isn't the pain being referred to conceptuality itself, i.e. taking cave wall shadows (which might be referred to as reflections of sorts) to be The Reality?

Aren't words shadows/reflections of <can't be said/shadowed/reflected>?


sun0

Isn't there some individualism in other species besides us? I mean it wouldn't do group any good if everyone was the same would it?

Not that "we" care that much about the well being of the "group" as much as "we" did even 10 years ago. People by becoming more individualistic they separate from each other and maybe becoming more similar in a sense to each other which doesn't lead the "group" to be any better?.

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inquiry
> Isn't there some individualism in other species besides us?

Hard to say while lost in the dream of being an individual. Individuals see individuality in animals, but that's hardly proof, unless considering faith that it's so to be sufficient proof.

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sun0

I mean I guess that's true.

But what's the alternative? Without individualism are we just primal desires?

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inquiry

Pure awareness: and even that's saying too much.

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sugar

Posting online under a name feels very individualistic. Lead the way, perhaps.

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inquiry
> Posting online under a name feels very individualistic.

Without question.

Lead the way, perhaps.

It's tricky in that attempting to end it reinforces it by requiring an individual to attempt to end it.

It simply ends, like a movie/dream/nightmare, like the proverbial snake suddenly seen to be but a rope - except more thoroughly for the seeming snake seer disappearing with the seeming snake.

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