Midnight Pub

"the only way to win, is not to play"

~tffb

AI. Beautiful. I see examples of people having conversations with ChatGPT - some love the software, some hate it, some have already folded it's responses into the fabric of their day-to-day lives.

I haven't. I have nothing against AI, but I will not be delving into it with reckless abandon (or at all) like I did w/ the WWW in the mid-90s. A lot of headache (for me, my life) could have been head off if I had not gone down The Rabbithole.

The Web is great. It's also so elementary in "concept" (or was, now it's a reality) that it's hard to imagine civilization became so enamored with it.

A server talks to another server. The messages can be, and are, fast. Fairly quicker than the postal service, and back and forth continuously should one choose.

Cool. What about the rest? What do we need (most of) it for? A blog, a social media account, a Tumblr site paying tribute to parmesan cheese - why?

I'm here to say this, though (and hey, thanx, Web, for the platform to say it! Sacrifice: warranted!) - my late-Father and many of his age range (some older, some younger) saved themselves a lot of headache, ridiculousness by not "going online". I don't mean they weren't active on Facebook, I mean they never as much as sent an e-mail or had a laptop in their hands. They didn't care. Why would they? Granted, people much older than they ("they" would be in their 70s or 80s (or some much younger) now) were and are quite well-versed in Internet jargon, but the Average Person probably could have, and did, and do, get by without the Web and carry on fine without *too* much sacrifice in day-to-day life.

So, if I were to learn a lesson from "The Olds", it would be to not drink the Electric Kool-Aid of AI, or/and the (surely well-meaning) co's behind it. It's a segment of Computer Science that is A) very fascinating, B) full of potential, C) will effect everyone, everywhere - including me. Amd D) totally on auto-hype in terms of civilization and everyone (everywhere) either drawing X amount of joy/amusement from it, or X amount of distress and headache because of it. *I* don't need to chase it like it's the best thing since sliced bread (man, what a turning point that was!) ;)

Hope everyone is well.

Until later...


ernstl

I just heard a webinar where they sell you AI tools to generate online course materials, course outlines and a structure and get started quickly to your online business product. For such things, AI may be nice at the moment.

But in the end, your knowledge has to come from somewhere first... AI cannot do your own learning effort for you.

And if AI-generated content flows back into the pot of source material resp. training material that the AIs are being trained on, then we have a problem...

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jack

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jr

the game has changed, son of flynn...

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inquiry

To me "AI" refers to "Automaton Intelligence", which to me is the kind most humans exhibit. So I'm hardly surprised an automaton without flesh could exhibit it. It's just the vomiting out of associations-driven information.

Knees jerking is all it 'tis.

This too.... ;-)

gemini://textmonger.pollux.casa/

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tffb

I'll take the Authentic Indifference stance - there's there AI *I* have deep interest in! ;)

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inquiry

I'm liking "Authentic Indifference". Sounds in the direction of raw awareness.

gemini://textmonger.pollux.casa/

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tffb

Yea, I saw that Gita quote from textmonger - he was quoted with the "destroyer of worlds" thing that Oppenheimer recalled too, yea?

By the way, "intake toxicity" - I likely had a bout of that, myself some time back, as "all blogs blog the same" (or so I thought), and the subject matter delineates little from the Big Picture of "social media sucks, heres why to blog, how to blog a lot, how to make money blogging, how to grow an audience with a blog", et al. When all I was doing in the space was trying to re-invent the (personal/self) standard of what I can do with wordsmith'ing. I was literally trying to surprise myself per post, and become better at writing as I went along.

Different than the AP Guidebook referencers and SEO masters who "just want rank". AI perpetuates content conformity, usually by Not People.

Back to what I was saying, though I suffered from intake toxicity, I suffered more from writer's woes - essentially, I was torturing myself by doing all that for so long.

Nevertheless, the online comrades I've met, and keep, and people's opinion of the WWW, in general (observations that I've read of others, people's candid candor online, a "fuck it all, this is MY online hub" attitude) shows me that it all was worth it (writing/being online, that is).

Though I digress, because it ("it" being the "days of blogging") are a time-and-place thing for me now. Like Minor Threat (Washington DC punk band from the early-1980s) had a time and place in history, or the campground that I grew up in love with, only for it to be leveled and turned into a GM lot - I have (or still am) compartmentalizing my time spent in the past several years to just "that was there, this is now", and I'm happier now, so on I go! :)

Stay well, Inquiry

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inquiry
> Nevertheless, the online comrades I've met, and keep,
> and people's opinion of the WWW, in general (observations
> that I've read of others, people's candid candor online,
> a "fuck it all, this is MY online hub" attitude) shows me
> that it all was worth it (writing/being online, that is).

There are times when it definitely feels in the "necessary evil" zone.

> Though I digress, because it ("it" being the "days
> of blogging") are a time-and-place thing for me
> now. Like Minor Threat (Washington DC punk band from
> the early-1980s) had a time and place in history, or
> the campground that I grew up in love with, only for
> it to be leveled and turned into a GM lot - I have (or
> still am) compartmentalizing my time spent in the past
> several years to just "that was there, this is now",
> and I'm happier now, so on I go! :)

Familiar. But I think oscillations through what I want to call obsession cycles are roughly the regardless "what it's about" details.

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