Midnight Pub

Becoming Visible

~edisondotme

Part I: I wish...

I wish there was a place on the internet I could:

Part II: Semi-anonymity

By "semi-anonymously" I mean in a way that avoids these problems:

Part III: China and the US

Also I was thinking about Chinese censorship recently and how reserved Chinese people are about voicing dissenting opinions. Even Americanized Chinese people get quiet when you ask them about controversial topics. I've had it happen to me in real life.

Anyways, it's a **very** interesting corollary to American capitalist culture that I am *also* afraid to have publicly accessible opinions for different reasons.

With poor social support systems in the US and your self-worth and livelihood strongly tied to your job, doing anything to jeopardize that in the US is unwise the same way that doing anything to jeopardize your social credit score in China is unwise.

`<aside>`This is partially why I hate it when people say "Don't worry about what other people think of you" since people's perception of you is literally one of the most important things in this world for the reasons expressed elsewhere in this post. I'm aware that I'm over-generalizing this advice, but I still object to it for the same reasons that philosophers get pissy about [absolutism vs relativism] (not having universal truths)`</aside>`

Universality

Part IV: Okay, so why not just *always* write anonymously?


abacushex

Between this and the conversely named post by ~partofthemain (were you guys mind-melding or what?) I'm gonna have to do some cogitating...

Hey ~bartender? Remember that bottle of Stolinchaya I had you pop in the freezer? I need that, a shot glass, and notebook. Oh wait, got my notebook. Just need a quiet open booth...

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starbreaker

I'm not going to say you shouldn't care what other people think, but as somebody who grew up before internet and dealt with a shitload of bullying as a kid: if I had lent too much credence to what other people thought I would have been a teenage suicide.

However, I post rants about sex and politics on my own website under my "real name", with appropriate content warnings, because I'm not willing to live in fear.

"Real Sex Education" (matthewgraybosch.com)
"What Happened to Free Enterprise?" (matthewgraybosch.com)

I post stuff like this partly because I'm writing from the heart, and partly as an act of defiance. If people want to censor me badly enough, they'll find a way. But I'll be damned if I'll do their work for them by self-censoring on a platform that I operate at my own expense—my personal website.

As for employers: the about page on my site plainly states that what I post on my site is my own opinion (unless attributed) and that I don't speak for my employers. Nor do I ever identify my current employer (if somebody wants to know badly enough, they can find out without my help).

However, these "controversial" posts are a test for employers: if you think you have the right to police my behavior outside the workplace and outside working hours, then I don't want to work for you. You don't pay me enough for that kind of totalitarian bullshit.

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pr1ba

Oh, I recently talked to my daughter, who is almost 13, and said all these things. that if you have any questions, come to us, if you find out about toys, do not take nonsense, come to us, we will help you choose something good. a week after the conversation, she asked, how would you feel about me having a girlfriend? I replied, yes, even a bear, as long as the people are good. but in Russia, the situation is much worse than in the United States, although I must say the employer will never fire for the post, in this regard, we are much freer.

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starbreaker

Your daughter's lucky to have such understanding parents.

As for not getting fired in Russia for posting wrongthink: if you got arrested for wrongthink, wouldn't you get fired for getting arrested?

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pr1ba

we don't get arrested for thinking wrong. arrests for breaking the law. people are very confused about the situation. and it really won't always lead to job losses. the employer rarely depends on the state so much, if it is not a state-owned company. we don't have a perfect world here, there are a lot of problems in it , including that the laws may change due to the situation, but I can say that you can think anything, and talk too,but going to rallies that are not coordinated is a violation of the law. write on the Internet about the overthrow of the government, also a violation of the law recently, etc.

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inquiry

This is going to sound borderline raving lunatic zone, but the most effective and thorough path from said debacle is attenuation (preferably utter loss..) of attention on/to the idea of one's self, because then whatever others do/think is utterly irrelevant for there being no one/self for any of it to pertain to....

Said another way: it can't bother you when there's no you to be bothered....

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pr1ba

Shakyamuni, I'm glad you're here. Get drunk?

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inquiry

Born drunk, really. Can't think of a better reason to become as a little child again.

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partofthemain

When I read this, a bell went "ding" and some toast popped up in my brain. Thank you.

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inquiry

Well, gosh dang, given I was shooting for English muffin! ;-)

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stargazer

As sad as it is, in this day and age I am not sure it is even possible to be semi-anonymous. Best you can do is clone yourself as another person with an anonymous screen name and just like in Ghost Busters, do NOT cross the streams.

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pr1ba

Then you can go crazy

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